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Post by agustinfranco on Jan 6, 2008 19:14:09 GMT 8
Hi all: Did anybody say TM hybrids? carunculata X TM ventricosa X TM maxima dark X TM: Yes, people, this plant is really dark Gus
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peter
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Post by peter on Jan 6, 2008 19:19:00 GMT 8
Gus, do you grow your plants outside or in a greenhouse, do you use any artificial lighting. Your plants always look so good. Peter
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Post by agustinfranco on Jan 6, 2008 19:27:00 GMT 8
Hi Peter: Thanks for the compliment. No secrets, no artificial lighting. Just the one from the Australian Sun: Gentle for the plants but melanoma producing for human skin These are greenhouse grown. you are right indeed. Gus
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Post by Ludwig on Jan 7, 2008 0:27:26 GMT 8
Thanks heaps, if mine looks half as good as yours I will be happy, we are having a very mild summer at the moment so everything is still pitchering. I quess the 40 degree days will hit us soon.... Thanks Peter; actually we're in the middle of a cold (for San Diego) winter, and it appears that these plants like it on the chilly side. In the summer I notice some of the leaves bleach out and pitchers aren't at their best. Try to keep the daytime temps up and they really enjoy cold winter nights. Gus, that dark maxima x TM is amazing.
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Post by rainforestguy on Jan 7, 2008 2:45:36 GMT 8
Ludwig, This is one of the amazing things with regards to hybrids. What does best for you mine behaves differently producing different results. The cold period makes your plants dark, and vividly colored, yet for me, heat and bright light makes more washed out colors, but on bigger somewhat more robust plants. This may also be attributed to fertilizing, and even insect prey being more for tropical Hawai'i but on similar hybrids, we seem to have different plants behaving differently.
Nice black maxima x TM and I hope it stays that color!
M
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Post by Ludwig on Jan 15, 2008 14:43:57 GMT 8
Steve came by today and shot my latest (and largest) maxima x TM. And another one off of a different plant: These are thorelii x TM pitchers that Steve grew (he's being bashful with his photos lately!): He took a great shot of my (maxima x thorelii) x TM: And a small sibuyanensis x TM pitcher: A nice little maxima x veitchii upper:
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Post by rainforestguy on Jan 18, 2008 5:26:32 GMT 8
I am curious if everyone's maxima x TM is more compact than many other TM hybrids exhibit?
M
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Post by srduggins on Jan 26, 2008 6:13:02 GMT 8
Maxima x TM is my slowest growing TM hybrid so it is still pretty compact. Truncata x TM comes in second place for growth and compactness. This maxima x TM clone is showing more squatness in the pitchers: and here's a better shot of that bulbous bottom truncata x TM (same pitcher, but now with better color): I am continually amazed at the range of color these hybrids show. I think I must have the ideal lighting for them to produce these colors: ventricosa x TM (If this one gets a more elongated peristome it is going to be deeper than it is tall: I don't know what you mean by best colored form, but I'm a sucker for orange pitchers, thorelii x TM: Where are those thorelii x TM uppers? I leave you with my (maxima x thorelii) x TM:
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Post by Ludwig on Jan 26, 2008 7:36:23 GMT 8
N. truncata x TM:
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Post by rainforestguy on Jan 26, 2008 7:45:02 GMT 8
Ludwig, I think yours has the best peristome I have seen around. Not sure if mine has stripes that vivd. I will check and see.
M
This current hybrid grex is much more easy to grow than the former cross. M
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Post by Ludwig on Jan 26, 2008 8:06:20 GMT 8
Thanks Michael; it is still very small but it looks like it has great potential once it gets some size. I'd love to see your current pics as well.
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Post by srduggins on Jan 26, 2008 9:45:00 GMT 8
This current hybrid grex is much more easy to grow than the former cross. M What do you mean by this? Are you talking about truncata x TM? When were the two different gredges made?
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Post by rainforestguy on Jan 27, 2008 10:30:47 GMT 8
Steve, EP has made two crosses to my knowledge of truncata x TM. The earlier clone had a truncata of the standard form. The second grex I believe they used a squat form, this accounts for better coloration and more compact habit. I will see if my larger plants still have coloring as lower pitchers. Some plants have approached a lowii x truncata appearing plant.
M
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Post by srduggins on Jan 28, 2008 1:08:35 GMT 8
Really, were they released at the same time? Does their tag specify which truncata was used? Was the first cross more limited and released at $80 and the 2nd cross at $35? My 4 plants are really different looking. Well, the plants look similar, the pitchers are way different. chestnut pitcher w/ striped peristome - This was obtained earlier than the rest and has a different shaped mouth. green pitcher w/ red peristome orangey, striped pitcher w/ similar peristome purple pitcher w/ striped peristome
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Post by rainforestguy on Jan 29, 2008 2:42:50 GMT 8
Here is a current N. truncata x TM seedling A look from another angle. M
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