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Post by tarence on May 25, 2007 8:47:44 GMT 8
Thx Cosmoking.....i`ll keep the water level high when i expose them to full sun. My mexican ping`s leaves tend to rot when exposed to too much water. I`m not supposed to water them from the top right ?
Cos that`s how my adult mex ping rotted away ( when it got rained on everyday last year with minimum sun exposure ) Do you think I can expose the mex ping to full sun, put in in high water level & even if it rains, it`ll be no problem coz the leaves will eventually drip dry ?
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Post by cosmoking on May 25, 2007 23:15:33 GMT 8
The reason it rotted away is because you were giving it nowhere near enough sun, and because it was constantly wet and in dark conditions and thats why it rotted away.
Mexican Pings shoudl not be kept wet up to the brim! Keep their tray permanently full of water throughout their growing season-I presume your water trays are about an inch high?
If so then thats fine.
I grow the vast majority of my Mexican Pings in full sun and plenty of water(water tray always full)and I have never had a plant rot since I started keeping them this way.
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Post by tarence on Jun 28, 2007 18:39:41 GMT 8
Cosmoking : what if my p.primulifloras are already in pot-high water & in full sun but still are sluggish in growth ? They doesn`t seem to grow big at all but they does have plantlets at the leaf tips. They are nowhere near the maturity size shown by Lim. Are they slow growers ? I`ve had mine for about 2 months & there`s nary any growth. The good thing is the plant isn`t rotting or turning brown /black either.
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Post by bifurcatum on Jun 30, 2007 21:53:13 GMT 8
My primuliflora nit doing good too  . The leaf started to rot. Growing out smaller leaf.   |
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Post by piscesilim on Jun 30, 2007 22:37:40 GMT 8
Could be something wrong with the substract. Better change all the sphagnum moss.
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Post by tarence on Jun 30, 2007 23:34:46 GMT 8
Yeah, mine looks like yours TS.....except smaller & slimmer. our poor pings ! btw, why does your medium look so black at the edge of the pot ? you use poor quality spag moss ah ? heheh, use lah the NZ punya....
Lim : i`ll change the med to all spag moss for one pot & see if it improves....thx.
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Post by ameliepoulain on Jun 30, 2007 23:47:37 GMT 8
looks like root rot or it could also be some tiny pest causing that.
I think you should replant the plantlet before they are affected too.
just my 2-cents worth.
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Post by piscesilim on Jun 30, 2007 23:55:59 GMT 8
Hmm... What water you are using? Did you put water tray? And where you put your plant?
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Post by tarence on Jul 1, 2007 10:55:42 GMT 8
Here`s what my ping looks like. why diff shaped leaves from TS`s punya eh ? But p.primuliflora`s leaves should be longish rite ?  |
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Post by piscesilim on Jul 1, 2007 11:06:47 GMT 8
Tarence, Did you put your P.primuliflora under the full sun? But how's TS's P.primuliflora look like?
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Post by zakhren on Jul 1, 2007 11:29:36 GMT 8
Mine looks like tarence's. The leaf shape changes just like any other plant. More sun, smaller less green and tougher leaves, less sun, bigger greener softer leaves.
Bifurcatum, what is it growing in? Doesn't look like sphagnum... Plus I find stronger plants grow in full sun with the water level up to the brim of the pot. Try do that. Looks like it needs alot more sun. But full sun is dangerous, forget to fill the water up to the brim for 2 mornings and the plant will start to burn. I forgot for 1 morning and the new leaf was a bit curled, luckily nothing serious.
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Post by tarence on Jul 1, 2007 12:37:51 GMT 8
Lim : yep, full sun....
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Post by David on Jul 1, 2007 17:21:28 GMT 8
Just to share my limited experiece. Mine look like bifurcatum's. Then later died. However I manage to get two baby plantlets before the mother plant died. These two are repoted in sphagnum peat moss and perlite. I did not place them on a water tray but kept the media always wet.
Then one died and the other looks like it is mearely existing. I shifted that one on a tray of RO water. It is now thriving and it looks like tarence ping. Although mine in not under sun but it is under 16 hours of artificial lights.
So, perhaps what works for this species is:
- sphagnum peat moss media
- water tray method
- clean distilled/RO water
- alot of sunlight
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Post by piscesilim on Jul 1, 2007 23:35:00 GMT 8
That's why the leaves look curve and narrow. I don't like narrow leaves look. So, I keep all my P. primuliflora under shade with 100 % sphagnum moss as substarct and no water tray. Give them water every 1-2 days. Use well water for watering. They grow like weed. |
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Post by tarence on Jul 1, 2007 23:57:16 GMT 8
But p.primuliflora leaves ARE supposed to be curved & narrow Lim...did you see the pic in Savage garden ? They are curved in to collect the juices secreted from digesting insects.
Does your shaded pings flower ? I believe I saw a flower before right ? They still flower even in shade ? That`s interesting....
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Post by piscesilim on Jul 2, 2007 15:04:31 GMT 8
Yes. They bloom under shade. And my P.primuliflora grow better under shade than full sun.
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Post by cosmoking on Jul 2, 2007 18:31:12 GMT 8
That's why the leaves look curve and narrow. I don't like narrow leaves look. So, I keep all my P. primuliflora under shade with 100 % sphagnum moss as substarct and no water tray. Give them water every 1-2 days. Use well water for watering. They grow like weed. If you dont like that look then Im afraid Pinguicula are not for you! All well grown Pinguicula will have curved leaves...its to force insects into the middle of the leaf and to stop them escaping. You will also find that primuliflora's in sahde, as well as not being such good insect catchers, will also succumb to rot much more readily then those in full sun. In response to David, for my medium I have the top third in live spaghnum and the rest is in a mixture of 50:50, sand and peat. |
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Post by piscesilim on Jul 2, 2007 20:52:40 GMT 8
Well. Seem fun sun is highly recommended. I will start a experiment again with 10 pot P. primuliflora under shade and 10 pot P. primuliflora under full sun. Then see what happen after 3 months.
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Post by cosmoking on Jul 3, 2007 22:33:57 GMT 8
Make sure you keep the ones in sun as wet as possible-up tot he brim of the pot if you can. If you let them dry out they will almost certainly die, so be very careful.
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Post by tarence on Jul 4, 2007 10:26:23 GMT 8
Alas Cosmoking, we can`t grow live spaghnum moss here....it just doesn`t grow well....someone plse correct me ! i`d be so happy.
how do you manage to grow spag moss under full sun ? aren`t moss suppose to be shade dwellers ? but anyhow, i have not seen anyone growing thriving spag moss in full sun as medium for CPs......not in M`sia anyways. I have always envied pics of cultivated CPs peeping out from live spag moss, looks so natural.
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. The leaf started to rot. Growing out smaller leaf.
