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Post by David on Nov 7, 2007 23:09:27 GMT 8
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Post by lisham on Nov 7, 2007 23:58:11 GMT 8
err... i think it's time for the leaves to dry....
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Post by David on Nov 8, 2007 0:35:06 GMT 8
Oh, you mean it's just old leaves? .... there's hope... there's hope....
Anyone else can confirm this for me?
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Post by ameliepoulain on Nov 8, 2007 0:51:27 GMT 8
i don't think those are old leaves, i think it's rot. when i transfered a large plantlet from my primuliflora, the same thing happened to the plantlet, within a couple of days, the whole plant was gone. Aphid could be the culprit too..
i'd suggest you transfer whatever plantlet that you have to another pot before the rot affects them too. then try to trim whatever rot that has set in, remove the top media too & replace with fresh moist (not wet!) media. set it aside, don't water it for awhile & pray hard.
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Post by lisham on Nov 8, 2007 0:57:26 GMT 8
yeap... i think it's old leaves... I usually clip em off as soon as they appear so the plants just stay green.
Mine basically thrive on abuse... and sprouting babies until i gave up and ran out of those 2 inch pots, i stopped planting the babies in their indvidual pots... now i just pick the babies up and put em in 1 big pot so they can grow without bothering the mother plant.
Now am experimenting on growing them in my neps mix (sand+coco husk+charcoal) so far so good.
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Post by tarence on Nov 9, 2007 9:48:08 GMT 8
David, mine becomes like that when it is allowed to touch the medium i.e. LFS in your case. i notice that most of your rotting leaves are touching the medium. direct contact with the medium could be giving it too much moisture i think. yeah, mine rotted away as well coz i did not save it on time. i usually raise the plant a little allowing only the tip to touch LFS for plantlets to appear. Hope it helps.
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Post by cactustts on Nov 9, 2007 11:33:00 GMT 8
I agree with Tarence, it's the moisture that caused the rotting. David, maybe you could just lay some sand on top like what you did to your sundews. It could also time for the old leaves to die and dry.
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Post by David on Nov 9, 2007 13:53:08 GMT 8
Ok, I think I will chnage the potting media and place the pings in a smaller pot so that the leaves hang over the pot. Will add a layer of sand on the top to reduce humidity. I think I will also let the water tray for my ping dry out before filling it up again as advise by Athene.
Thanks everyone. Hope they survive.
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Post by tarence on Nov 9, 2007 14:07:03 GMT 8
A gentle note of caution : i read that p.primuliflora does best in LFS and with lotsa water.
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Post by David on Nov 9, 2007 22:09:04 GMT 8
Hmm, ok... maybe I'll let the water level stay as it is. At the moment they are in S. moss.
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Post by cosmoking on Nov 10, 2007 1:23:41 GMT 8
This is not rotting at all, but simply a case of old leaves dying away. It is nothing to do with touching the media either...most of the leaves of my P. primuliflora are touching the medium and only the oldest leaves are dying. It is perfectly normal. There is nothing wrong with your plant at all, just a bit of panic.  However, your plants do look a little squashed together: I would re pot them or at least space them out in the pot so they do not compete with each other or swamp each other. As for reducing humidity, in nature P. primuliflora grow on the edge of streams and are sometimes half submerged in the stream, so humidity would be pretty high! |
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Post by David on Nov 12, 2007 9:28:06 GMT 8
Thank you Cosmo for your input in this. Appreciate it.
I've already repotted my pings last weekend. Found a whole bunch of babies under the parent plants. Have repotted them too. Media is still the same ie. sphagnum moss but I use sand as its topping. They are still in my grow chamber. So humidity should be still high.
One more question Cosmo. Do primulifloras do better if they are grown one in a pot as compared to 3 in one? At the moment I've repotted them 3 plants in a pot.
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Post by cosmoking on Nov 13, 2007 1:07:48 GMT 8
No problem David.  Primuliflora's, as well as most Pings and indeed most plants, do tend to do better in individual pots because there is no competition from neighbouring plants. But as long as you space your Pings out in the pot, there is no reason why you shouldnt be able to grow several in a community pot. Personally, I would advise you agaisnt using sand; it will stagnate the Spaghnum underneath and will cause it to rot quicker, and if there is a lot of sand the weight may compact the Spaghnum and reduce the air pockets around the roots. The sand will also encourage moulds and other unpleasant things to appear, which will take root on it, especially if the environment is stagnant. |
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Post by David on Nov 13, 2007 13:07:47 GMT 8
Ok, thanks for the advise Cosmo
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Post by ameliepoulain on Jan 2, 2008 23:52:55 GMT 8
so David, how's your primuliflora?
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Post by David on Jan 17, 2008 13:56:23 GMT 8
Hi Athene,
heh, heh, just saw your question today. I repotted the babies into 2 pots of 3 plants each. Spread them out away from each other as much as possible.
After about 2 weeks or so, the plants in one of the pots start to show the same symptoms of the parent plant like the pictures above.
I got fedup and place that pot at the wash area window of my apartment. Thought of letting it fend for itself since my papering does not do any good. The conditions are like this...
- No sun, only strong light in the afternoon.
- sometimes the media dry out a little.
- they catch a lot of insects.
- night temperatures is much cooler.
- use unfiltered tap water to water them instead of RO water.
- no talking to them and praising them
After more than a week, guess what! The plant is more healthy than the other pot in my grow chamber. Anybody got any theories? I'm confused.
My theory is maybe the cooler nights plays a very important role for it to thrive. Just a guess.
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Post by tarence on Jan 17, 2008 15:59:23 GMT 8
i think it should be the no talking or praising them part which helped. esp the talking.
chortle chortle.
My guess is the drier media which makes it more rot resistant.
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Post by cindy on Jan 17, 2008 20:14:05 GMT 8
Increased ventilation, my friend? |
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Post by David on Jan 17, 2008 22:35:07 GMT 8
Ok, here's some pictures to show you the difference between the two pots. They were all about the same size when I first repotted them. See the difference now...  The one in my grow chamber is even yellowish in colour. Quite sad looking. Close up of the one that is dump outside with no care. Only watering with chorine water from the tap. Notice all the gnat flies trapped on its leaves...  |
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Post by ameliepoulain on Jan 17, 2008 23:54:34 GMT 8
I think this batch of primuliflora is entering teenhood, they prefer to be left alone - turning brown is their way of slamming the door to our face  mine pulled the very same stunt, I gave the ignore treatment + stopped all 'allowance' (no tray watering + reduced sunlight) Now it just finished flowering for me What to say, teens these days!   |
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Any advise or help woould be very much appreciated. Here are some pictures... 
Any advise or help woould be very much appreciated. Here are some pictures... 
