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Post by ericsow on Jan 3, 2008 13:37:10 GMT 8
Tarence, thanks for your word.
David, I sure that you will no appetite when look at dried drosera around CH nursery.
Cindy, the 3rd Ping look more like P.moranensis after flowering. How to make it produce seeds?
Another can help on my 1st picture plant? Because almost all big leaf rotted and it become small and smaller.
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Post by tarence on Jan 3, 2008 13:58:21 GMT 8
Eric, you can also try propagate the ping via leaf. Just pull it off with the white part and put on LFS. Keep moist & in bright lites.
Sorry, i`m not well-versed enuff with pings to advice you. Mine are all experiments & some make it but others are slow.
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Post by ericsow on Jan 3, 2008 14:07:21 GMT 8
 Maybe most of ppl no awared that on my main plant 2 o'clock did propagated small plant to me. And the small plant outside layer leaf also rotted too fast. Middle of main plant now do appear two point to grow new leaf. Are they request dry media? |
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Post by cindy on Jan 3, 2008 19:22:43 GMT 8
The expert Ping killer says, "If the plant continues to put out smaller and smaller leaves, soon there will be no more plant left."  I tend to repot Mexican Pings onto drier media when they start to do that. Otherwise the whole plant rots away for me. No idea why this happens...it happened to the P. gigantea a few weeks ago but it is now coming back with less light. I am not so sure if it is really the light itself or is it because it is cooler. |
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Post by tarence on Jan 4, 2008 8:43:28 GMT 8
since cindy has shared.....heheh. my experiment also involves using drier media. some of them are on pure vermaculite ( the minerals there might be an issue ) & they are doing fine. some don`t make it. so it`s a hit & miss, that`s why i dare not advise you.
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Post by ericsow on Jan 4, 2008 10:20:21 GMT 8
My third Ping's flower  My first Ping going smaller and smaller. Changed it from 3" pot to 1" pot with peat/perlite and top layer with aquarium sand.  My first Ping's baby... repot it to peat/perlite with top layer perlite.  |
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Post by tarence on Jan 4, 2008 11:48:42 GMT 8
Good luck then Eric..........
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Post by ericsow on Jan 4, 2008 16:42:23 GMT 8
Cindy, what will expert Ping killer say if the Ping's leaf grow fast but not big? Tarence， blessing to my plant too.  |
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Post by cindy on Jan 4, 2008 19:31:02 GMT 8
Your first Ping looks like it is dividing itself into two plants. If it continues to grow with leaves about the same size, you are safe. If each new leaf is smaller than the previous leaf, then it is likely to shrink itself to death. In our weather, I have not experience winter dormancy for Pings but instead "summer dormancy". Mexican Pings are more highland in nature so they tend to produce smaller and smaller leaves if the temperature is too warm...not unlike highland Neps in lowland conditions. There are two flowers on your third Ping!  |
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Post by ericsow on Jan 8, 2008 14:02:42 GMT 8
 Hi all, Is it my first Ping changing leaf type? Because I only see those new leaf come with dews. |
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Post by cosmoking on Jan 9, 2008 1:29:01 GMT 8
No its nothing to worry about...your plant is going into dormancy. Reduce watering and only water it occasionally until the point it is moist; do not water it to the point that it is wet or waterlogged. Resume the normal watering routine after about 3 months; if your plant does not wake up after about 4 or 5 months, start giving it more water and it should wake up after that.  |
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Post by cindy on Jan 9, 2008 8:45:34 GMT 8
Eric,
It is odd that the smaller leaves produced are more dewy than the older, larger ones. I do agree with Dino that you should cut back on watering to prevent rotting.
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Post by ericsow on Jan 9, 2008 10:10:21 GMT 8
Dino, thanks for your input. Actually I had moved it to dry area when the leaf keep rotted. Now I can put it on my cactus area with watering occasionally. Cindy, oh I see. No wonder I can't see any dewy when the leaf become bigger/older. Moving it to succulents section. |
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Post by cindy on Jan 9, 2008 17:56:26 GMT 8
Eric,
We are supposed to dewy large leaves. Not dewy smaller leaves. When the leaves become smaller, they tend to become more succulent. That is why it is weird that your Ping produced dewy smaller leaves.
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Post by ericsow on Jan 9, 2008 19:03:06 GMT 8
Eric, We are supposed to dewy large leaves. Not dewy smaller leaves. When the leaves become smaller, they tend to become more succulent. That is why it is weird that your Ping produced dewy smaller leaves. As I understand from NET, summer leaf large and dewy. Winter leaf succulent and short. And my leaf is... small and dewy. When it grow up, dewy gone and fast rotted. I could be potential Ping killer soon.  |
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Post by cosmoking on Jan 10, 2008 1:03:48 GMT 8
How hot are you keeping these?? A lot of Pinguicula are mountanious plants and like night-time temperatures between about 10-15 Celcius-hot days and nights are also very much disliked when they are dormant, because in their native habitat they are dormant when it is Winter so they will want cooler temperatures during this time. Once a plant produces its small, succulent Winter leaves it is normal for the Summer leaves to collpase and die quickly. The succulent leaves are usually covered in white hairs as well-are you sure that the leaves in your picture are not hairs??I cant quite tell from here  If they are then it is normal dormancy signs, if not then it is other problems, either with the temperature or some other factor. How wet are you keeping these and how much sun are they getting?? If they are constantly in full, hot sun then they should be kept very wet; in my experience Pinguicula burn in full sun if their soil is moist, but they thrive if it is kept wet. |
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Post by David on Jan 14, 2008 22:19:40 GMT 8
We got a ping from Wilson.....btw, how is your ping & d.nidiformis ? my ping has turned copper colour after getting sun & the sundew is flowering non-stop. Hi Tarence, Here's a picture of the Ping from Wilson. Just taken it with my new camera (heh, heh, heh... yaa man! I've got my own camera now. Can take tons of pictures of my "pets"... ok back to topic...)  I've also gotten another ping from Sg. buloh about 1 week ago. Choong helped me buy it when he was there. Love this fella. Really huge. about 3.5 inches to 4 inches in diameter. Here's the picture...  You can see a flower bud growing out. I can't wait to see the flowers. |
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Post by tarence on Jan 15, 2008 9:05:05 GMT 8
wah......nice pings both...my ping from Wilson also looks like yours, coppery colour. i just got another mexican ping as well.....same shape as yours.
wah no 2...got own camera liao`.....i expect lotsa pics from you. *smile*
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Post by ericsow on Jan 16, 2008 12:23:47 GMT 8
My second Ping is giving flower to me. After compare the shape look likely is P.moranensis hybrid but yet to confirme as P. x 'Sethos.' ( Camera borrowed to someone, can't took picture.) I tried to pollinate some seed from my third Ping as identified as P. agnata or an agnata hybrid. Hopefully it work. After two flowers going dry soon, another flower bud show up again  Will flowering too much will stressed down the plant? |
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Post by ericsow on Jan 16, 2008 12:33:26 GMT 8
Pinguicula agnata or hybrid. Flower   Structure of Pinguicula flower  |
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If they are then it is normal dormancy signs, if not then it is other problems, either with the temperature or some other factor.
Will flowering too much will stressed down the plant?