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Post by shawnintland on Mar 14, 2008 9:30:16 GMT 8
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Post by marigoldsfail21 on Mar 17, 2008 10:07:07 GMT 8
Impressive flowers, Shawn. What are your growing conditions?
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Post by boonleng on Mar 17, 2008 12:43:50 GMT 8
very nice collection.
the H.unknown could be H.davidcumminsii
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 18, 2008 0:19:31 GMT 8
Hi marygoldsfail21 - Big mix of conditions for the hoyas - there are so many that some are in places where they get daily care and others I don't see for weeks at a time! Most of my areas are partially shaded for part of the day. Almost everything is in coco fiber or really course composted leaf mulch. (Except the Cyrtoceras floribundum, which grows in straight dirt.) My temperatures are way hotter than the mid-west, (I was born in Illinois, looong loooong ago!) 80- 95 degrees all year round, monsoon seasons for 2-3 months, then baking hot and dry for a few months...but that was all before global warming I guess - now there's no pattern! boonleng - I'm sooo lazy  , are you talking about the first or second unknown? Thanks! |
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 18, 2008 10:58:39 GMT 8
Okay boonleng, it was late last night so I was lazy! But this morning I had a look and realize you mean the first one - and I believe you are correct! There is a slight red on the corolla in the pictures I looked at that doesnt appear on my flowers but its probably just a slight variation. Thanks, now if I can just find the plant again I can finally label it! |
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Post by boonleng on Mar 18, 2008 10:59:54 GMT 8
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 18, 2008 12:12:18 GMT 8
Hee, Hee, Hee, that's the site I checked the picture at! Carol is a friend of mine. Yes, I collect a lot of Hoyas! My neps collection is starting to rival my hoyas but I have had the Hoyas for a lot longer. Are you here in Thailand boonleng?
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Post by boonleng on Mar 18, 2008 14:28:57 GMT 8
I'm from Malaysia. I only started collecting Hoya abt a year ago and now its slowly taking over my orchids...haha. For CP is just a small collections.
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 18, 2008 16:05:32 GMT 8
Watch out boonleng - that's the same thing that happened to me! Started out with orchids, moved into hoyas and WHAM - Neps started taking over! I just finished packing 6 boxes of Hoya cuttings and 400 Cyrtoceras floribundum seeds to send off tomorrow to members from this forum and NepenthesSiam forum! I noticed 5 new pods on the Cyrtoceras floribundum this morning and this afternoon I just spotted 5 more, so there will be plenty more to come! I think Malaysia's quarantine laws are pretty tough for plant material so cuttings might be a hassle but I'll gladly send seed when I have it, if you are interested. Shawn |
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Post by boonleng on Mar 18, 2008 20:40:13 GMT 8
thanks for the offer, but I oledi hv the Cyrtoceras floribundum, just brought 1 2 months ago. Im more interested on ur unknown hoya, may be we can do some exchange/trade...hehe. Ur hoya seem to produce seed pod easily, mine hardly see 1  |
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 18, 2008 23:11:28 GMT 8
Do you mean the "unknown" that we had not discussed or the one we did? I think that the "unknown" with the fully re-curved petals (last photo) is probably Hoya gracilis and the other with the non-recurved petals (second to last) is probably H. Davidcummingii. Let me know which one is it that you're interested in and I'll hunt around for the mother plant.  |
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Post by marigoldsfail21 on Mar 19, 2008 9:02:01 GMT 8
I really like your Hoya mindronensis, you think I could grow some in a terrarium? Or would I need hundreds of heat and grow lamps?  |
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Post by boonleng on Mar 19, 2008 15:19:56 GMT 8
shawnintland,
I actually interested in both of ur unknown hoya.. hehe.
marigoldsfail21,
yes, u can grow them in terrarium, their grow condition is similar to Nep. If ur Nep can survive, Hoya sure no problem. Usually people will move them out during summer.
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 19, 2008 16:44:40 GMT 8
Hmmm, in a terrarium huh? I'm not real sure! I think it would grow, maybe not very fast, but I'm not sure if it would flower for you. It tends to send out long shoots of new growth (like 50 cm at a time) and then it slows down and thickens up for a while. I only have a couple H. mindronensis plants and they seem to suffer or thrive depending on something totally beyond my knowledge! One month they look great and the next they look terrible...even when I can't tell what conditions have changed. I moved one into a shady place below my house last month and now suddenly it looks great! Seems to be a pretty finicky species (to me anyway). I seem to remember someone in the mid west growing them on some other Hoya forum I visited a while back. Maybe do a search for hoya forums in the States and read up a bit on what members say there. I know some people were growing them as house plants in their windows.
Shawn
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 19, 2008 16:47:38 GMT 8
Boonleng, I'll have a look around the nurseries and see if I can figure out where I hung them! It usually takes me a month to root them up (once I find them!). It seems to me that they are both very small flowered and small leafed varieties - that should make it a little easier for me to find them. |
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Post by marigoldsfail21 on Mar 20, 2008 6:08:47 GMT 8
I'll do that, thanks for the advice.
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Post by edmund83 on Mar 31, 2008 16:00:36 GMT 8
Hi shawn and all hoya fan, my hoya seem not easy flowering. Got any suggestion? i bought it last year. the flower is white color and reddish bit! My type is hoya anulata. correct me if i am wrong   I have another type which the leaf is heart share and the flower is red color. will update soon! ;D |
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Post by shawnintland on Mar 31, 2008 16:51:59 GMT 8
Hi Edmund83, Hmmm, pretty hard to say! I have found that my Hoyas flower more when the sun moves South and they get a bit more light than they get the rest of the year. I can't really see much of your plant from those pictures but it looks healthy! Do you use any "flowering ferts" at all? I often use a little bit of 12-24-12, well away from the stem to boost the flowering, but start with tiny bits and add more as you see no damage occurring. I don't know how it effects the flowering but I know that they like to dry out a bit between waterings...perhaps if it's too pampered with daily watering it just chooses to put out more foliage instead of flowers (just conjecture)! Some hoyas are very seasonal as far as flowering, others put on a show year round. I'd love to see a hoya lovers' data base where all this kind of info would be accessable to everyone...alas I haven't found it yet! There are some really good hoya forums out there,. I followed a few for a while but now with CPs taking over my life I can't find enough time to surf the web for hoyas as well! Somewhere I have a bunch of bookmarks for great hoya sites...if you want 'em PM me and I'll try to put them into an e-mail for you. Shawn |
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Post by edmund83 on Apr 2, 2008 9:21:27 GMT 8
i did not use any fert on the plant. i just make sure two days watering it. you use 12-24-12 to boost the flowering. what is 12-24-12? |
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Post by shawnintland on Apr 2, 2008 9:43:38 GMT 8
12-24-12 is the N-P-K ratio of the fertilizer. Generally, the first number (representing Nitrogen) promotes leaf and stem growth, the second number promotes flowering and the third promotes fruit development. That's a pretty simplified explanation, but I think correct. Most all ferts have these 3 numbers listed on the package somewhere. Usually you would not use just one type of fert (0-0-10 for instance, although they do make such stuff) but a mix with the ratio who's effect is aimed at the response you desire.
Sorry, got to run right now...more info later if you need it.
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, are you talking about the first or second unknown? Thanks!
