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Post by atmccmn on Aug 17, 2007 15:44:28 GMT 8
hoya.......why I forgotten abt that.....Ya I luv that smell. Something x.o........especially at night too. Another one is called bunga kerak nasi.....smell like as the name suggest. What else....Ya novelty type of phal......esp vilacea, bellina and their hybds. Strong spice scent esp. in the morning.
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Post by atmccmn on Aug 17, 2007 15:47:17 GMT 8
Hey...here is non c.p part. We can talk almost abt any other things that is green, alive and do not have legs to run around........hehehe As a starter, what's the next topic??
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Post by lisham on Aug 17, 2007 15:56:58 GMT 8
Green. alive and no legs? crippled Shrek and fiona? Hulk?
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Post by atmccmn on Aug 17, 2007 16:02:25 GMT 8
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Post by lisham on Aug 17, 2007 16:09:52 GMT 8
ok guys... 2 days off from work is a bliss... better make the best out of it... Nap Time! later yo... Before I go... I suggest u try hoyas... they're cheap... indestructable... easy to care for... easy to get.... Comes in red and white some got variegated leaves too... Keep em dry between watering and remember not to snip snip the flower stalks... flowers will grow on the again and again and again....
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Post by artificialive on Aug 17, 2007 17:46:09 GMT 8
Rangoon Creeper? My mom grows that one... Fragrant... yes... woody climber... Put out Red/pink/white/red and white candy stipe flower... Needs big pots... In kampungs they grow wild... Hoya is like this... www.washjeff.edu/greenhouse/Hcarnosa/Huh? Bunga Kesidang? We call that Bunga Kerak Nasi here up north.... I got 2 big pots of those... 1 growing until kena my balcony ceilling oledi.... Needs water... Lots of water... Smells nice... Yup, bunga kesidang is also known as bunga kerak nasi. It smells like kerak nasi, but if there are many flowers, the scent will be stronger and it will be similar to pandan scent. Lisham, u grow a lot of fragrant flowers too ya?
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Post by cosmoking on Aug 17, 2007 21:01:49 GMT 8
Cosmoking: Thanks cosmo, but i dont know about orchids. I just know some of them, e.g. dendrobium, phalaenopsis, cattleya. perhaps u can recommend me some? For Phaleanopsis you can grow nearly every species and hybrid in Malaysia(as most love the warmth and humidity you guys get over there, as they come from lowland tropical forests in Asia including those in Malaysia) BUT few Phalaenopsis are fragrant. The only one which I know of are Phaleanopsis violacea var Malaysia and Phaleanopsis violacea var Borneo (syn P. bellina) I grow the var. Borneo one in my house and at the moment its flowering-very nice and strong citrus scent from 11am to 4pm. I am not very experienced in Dendrobium BUT most species are cool(highland) growing so will be unsuitable for Malaysia. There is a significant minority of hot(lowland) growing species though. One which you can try is Dendrobium spectabile, which is reported to grow well in both cool and hot growing climates-heres a photo of this very interesting Orchid: www.orchidphotos.org/images/orchids/POE2003/species/IMG0003.jpgIf you dont mind getting hybrids with no ID, most Dendrobiums you can buy in commercial stores there should be hot(lowland) growing. They should be very cheap so it might be worth giving one a go. Most Cattleya are Intermediate growing(meaning they like night temperatures of around 13 Celcius year round) BUT at least 2 in 10 Cattleyas come from lowland tropical forests so should thrive in the temperatures you get there. They are: Cattleya amethystoglossa Cattleya guttata Cattleya leopoldii Cattleya bicolor Cattleya eldorado Cattleya lueddemanniana Cattleya maxima(tall, thin bulb growing form-the short bulb form is a highland form) BUT there is an issue you will face when growing Cattleya. Although they are extremely beautifu and all are fragrantl, all Cattleya species will want a dormancy period where they will want little water, so if you put them outside they will not be happy if they get rained upon while in dormancy, as this rots their roots. However, hybrids that are descended from these species, particurlarly complex hybrids like Brassolaeliocattleya, will be OK if they get even water throughout the year-just make sure you give them a little mroe water while they are growing and a little less while they are not growing. Finnaly, I would suggest you order from specialist nurseires as opposed to plants in commercial stores-specialist nurseries can advise you much better on which plants out of the stock they have are most suitable for your climate for example. One other thing-since you dont know which Orchid species you like the most, please fill in this questionaire and Il reccomend you species that fit what you like. A similar questionaire was presented to me when I first started growing Orchids nearly 4 years ago and this is how I found out that Cattleya are most suited for me-a genera which has since become my favourite. 1) Do you like very large, grand flowers or many small, less showy flowers? 2) Would you prefer extremely beautiful flowers or extremely scented flowers? 3) Would you prefer a plant that grows on a single stem that gets taller and taller or a plant that makes new bulbs and spreads but all the bulbs the same height? 4) Are you looking only for a few plants suited to your climate or would you be prepared to construct some sort of artificial chamber(e.g a cool growing terrarium) to house more varieties of Orchids that do not suit your climate?
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Post by artificialive on Aug 17, 2007 21:17:30 GMT 8
Hi Cosmoking, thanks for the posting, time and knowledge of orchids actually i would like to do some research before the flora festival in putrajaya comes, then i shall know which plant i want. Thanks for helping Heres the answer for the questionnaire: 1. very large grand flowers 2. extremely scented flowers 3. makes new bulbs 4. suited for my climate (no budget! haha ;D)
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Post by lisham on Aug 17, 2007 23:57:10 GMT 8
me got 1 or 2 only scented flower... living in apartment... so space constrain and... i dont like to sweep dried leaves off the floor...
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Post by cosmoking on Aug 18, 2007 0:51:33 GMT 8
Hi Cosmoking, thanks for the posting, time and knowledge of orchids actually i would like to do some research before the flora festival in putrajaya comes, then i shall know which plant i want. Thanks for helping Heres the answer for the questionnaire: 1. very large grand flowers 2. extremely scented flowers 3. makes new bulbs 4. suited for my climate (no budget! haha ;D) Based on your answers, the warm growing species and hybrids of Cattleya will suit you However, there are several drawbacks: 1) Your choice will be small-as most Cattleya's come from fairly high altitudes they will not enjoy the hot climate of lowland Malaysia. You will have to choose carefully, so getting in touch with a specialist nursery that has some warm growing species and hybrids is a good idea. 2) You will have to be careful of buying Cattleya hybrids that you see in shops-these have a high chance of being the cooler growing ones that will not enjoy the hot temperatures of lowland Malaysia. 3) Cattleya species in particurlar will not enjoy daily downpours you get in Malaysia, and the hybrids, although are happy to be fairly consistently watered throughout the year, will still not like lots of water while they are not growing. So you will have to grow them indoors or in a protected area outside where they wont be continously rained upon. Water is probably the biggest killer of Cattleya's-they must dry out completely between waterings, even while they are growing, otherwise their roots will quickly start to rot and if they are kept wet persistently, their bulbs may also start to rot. If this is too much trouble, I can reccomend you Vanda as a second choice. Vanda's are native to Malaysia and South Asia(India, Phillipines, Indonesia etc) and most Vandas are lowland species so they will love your climate. Some Vanda's are also fragrant. One Vanda in particular, Vanda sanderiana, or Sander's Vanda, is regarded by many to be Asia's most showy Orchid species. Heres a photo: www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/6779/vandasanderiana.jpgAnother Vanda you can try is Vanda tricolor-this is a fragrant species that will grow very easily in Malaysia. www.premdesign.com/orchidpics/vanda_tricolor.jpgAlternatively you can buy any Vanda from a store-they will all be lowland growing types and will all grow very easily. One thing though-they do not produce bulbs but have a single stem that may get over a Metre in height, so they do not fit your specification exactly but it is probably the best alternative. Good luck! Dino
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Post by tarence on Aug 18, 2007 11:42:40 GMT 8
Andy/Naj : here is the pic of my passion flower....
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Post by atmccmn on Aug 18, 2007 12:12:36 GMT 8
I see....this is a blue variety. Rather bizzare looking compared to the red one. So, when can 'belanja' me your passion fruit drink??......
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Post by tarence on Aug 18, 2007 12:29:46 GMT 8
the red one got no fragrance rite ? coz my old auntie crazy neighbour has it & it`s practically odourless. aiya, this one name only passion flower but it doesn`t produce fruits....i know you joking only....
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Post by cosmoking on Aug 19, 2007 1:11:51 GMT 8
Thats Passiflora coerulea-the most common passion flower around today. The red one is compartively uncommon, at least in Europe.
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Post by artificialive on Aug 19, 2007 14:45:16 GMT 8
Cosmoking: Thank you, thank you for the long elaboration. hehe i really appreciate it. So cattleya and vanda it will be, isnt it? Altho its a bit tricky to keep cattleya (as u mentioned), im sure i can get to grow these fella successfully, especially with your help, guide and tips from u, cosmo! Ooh, and thanks for the wish. May luck be with me (haha! like star wars: may the force be with u ) Tarence: Hey, the flower looks exactly from what i googled thru the internet. Thanks for sharing. How much $$$ did u buy this plant? I surveyed 2 nurseries here in Melaka, but not availabe. Hope to get them at putrajaya. Cosmo/ Tarence: I came across a site about passion flower. There is a column about conservation of passion flower. Is this plant becoming extinct? Or is it rare and that, people are getting them from the wild?
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Post by cosmoking on Aug 20, 2007 5:33:50 GMT 8
For excellent tipcs on the large flowered varieties, visit www.chadwickorchids.com and read thier articles on Cattleya. The two large flowered varieties that are fragrant are Cattleya lueddemanniana and Cattleya eldorado. All other lowland Cattleya are smaller flowered, although sometimes still fragrant. (Check the partial list I gave you) But read the articles on Cattleya on that website-they are very good and informative. As for Vanda, they like even water throughout the year so you can just leave those outside, but make sure they get at least 6 hours of sun a day. Theyl just grow and flower-all you'l have to do is mist them and water them in the dry season because although they survive dry seasons in the wild all the time, they prefer having even water throughout the year. Yes good luck-Il help you if you get stuck
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Post by tarence on Aug 20, 2007 8:40:47 GMT 8
Naj : i got the plant for rm4 at sg buloh......i`m not sure of the origin of it so can`t comment on it`s fight for survival in the wild. We have the blue one, the red & the white one here in M`sia. the red is the most common one in m`sia, the scentless one. the blue has the strongest fragrance, the white looks funnee...so i keep the blue/purple variety.
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