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Post by korean on Sept 17, 2007 21:50:09 GMT 8
can someone tell how to determine the flower nep weather is female or male
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Post by cindy on Sept 18, 2007 0:11:49 GMT 8
Hi Korean,
Before they open you can already tell.
Male - shaped "o"
Female - shaped "0"
The male flower bud is more flat at the top and bottom while the female is more oval. One grower said N. campanulata is the other way around though.
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 8:59:29 GMT 8
Cindy, only the male secretes the pandan-leaf-like fragrance rite ? i have trouble spotting the 2 as well as only a few of my neps have flowered. most of them have the lovely ( but scary at nite ) fragrance.
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Post by isaacgoh on Sept 18, 2007 9:08:01 GMT 8
Cindy, only the male secretes the pandan-leaf-like fragrance rite ? i have trouble spotting the 2 as well as only a few of my neps have flowered. most of them have the lovely ( but scary at nite ) fragrance. Sorry to hijack your thread, I noticed that Hoya plants also produce fragrance at night. It's quite eerie at first but now used to it alrady. |
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 9:16:35 GMT 8
It`s worse after we attend a funeral or hear scary ghost stories or watched a horror movie. I get jumpy for no reason although I always reason it out that it`s ok & nothing followed me home from the funeral service.
*nervousLAUGHTERfollowsWITHmouthBITINGfinger*
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Post by cindy on Sept 18, 2007 9:59:57 GMT 8
Tarence, both male and female flowers gives off a smell. Pandan-like or not depends on the species/hybrid. I have been fortunately so far that my plants that flowered smelled something between sourish pandan and ultra-sweet pandan. I was told some Nep flowers smell like horse/cat/whatever urine!  Sorry lah but over in Malaysia people use pandan for wreaths??!! I can't see the association between pandan smell in the night air and the deceased. Perhaps frangipani...muhahaha...oops, off-topic already....hehe... |
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 10:11:31 GMT 8
ok thx Cindy. i`ll try to spot the diff between the `o` or `O` size but if there`s only 1 flower stalk, then difficult to make comparison yah ?
no lah, we were talking about scents in the nite...you know what they say lah...if you smell something fragrant ( whatever it may be ) at nite and there`s no one nearby, a ghost might have just passed by. ( you getting goosebumps or not ? heheh ) it`ll depend on how eerie the surroundings feel. i do lots of my watering at nite around midnite sometimes so it can get quite creepy, what more with my pet dog buried in the garden ! heheh.
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Post by cindy on Sept 18, 2007 10:42:41 GMT 8
Not difficult at all. At most, wait for the first flower to open. Yellow pollen? Male.  I am not particularly eekky about such things. Soon, my balcony will smell of pandan again. My male campanulata x veitchii is putting out his 5th and 6th flower stalks. Good thing about pandan smell...cockroaches hate it. And I hate cockroaches. I killed one last night and the process injured my toe and scraped the skin off my fingers. LOL |
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Post by isaacgoh on Sept 18, 2007 11:13:41 GMT 8
I really don't know how to see o and 0... can be very challenging for us unless we have male and female flowering side by side.
Side topic: I was told by sifu to be careful when you smell the fragrance of the white bunga melur (the type used for religious flower offering) at night. Really eerie and my hair can hand straight. But why do you think some flowers produce fragrance at night? to attract insects? Hoya flower smell is really eerie.
Btw, What is thingyroaches?
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 11:18:15 GMT 8
cindy typed in a word which is banned by the forum.....and it was replaced by `thingy`...think of the word which usually comes before `roaches`.......
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Post by David on Sept 18, 2007 14:15:42 GMT 8
Hmm, didn't know flower smell can be eerie. Eh, you guys stop it laa. Afterwards we chase all new converts into Nepentheism away leh.
I usually identify the flowers when they open. Easier lah. Male flowers are long with a head. Female flowers rounded with an indent over it (Kinda like plums).
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Post by hongrui on Sept 18, 2007 14:39:52 GMT 8
2 lousy photos but hopefully can help to see the 'o' shape and the '0' shape. the first is a male, 2nd is a female.   |
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Post by korean on Sept 18, 2007 16:05:44 GMT 8
male will produce the fruit or no?
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 16:29:05 GMT 8
hongrui: they look different from what i`ve seen. guess these are the pre-open for business flowers ?
korean : female flowers are the ones producing the seeds. the pollen from the male flowers have to reach them make `it` happen.
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Post by cindy on Sept 18, 2007 16:47:52 GMT 8
So much for being able to spell accurately!  LOL Thanks, Hongrui for the pics. |
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Post by korean on Sept 18, 2007 17:05:55 GMT 8
ooooo, that's mean without male,female can't produce fruit. |
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Post by tarence on Sept 18, 2007 17:30:46 GMT 8
korean : errr...that`s simple biology lah. heheh. no spermbank in the CP kingdom.
cindy : yeah..spelling ! i was mystified too when i tried to spell nep d-i-c-k-soniana without the hyphens & it came out as thingysoniana. then i investigated. heheh.
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Post by hongrui on Sept 18, 2007 19:54:29 GMT 8
you're welcome, cindy.
tarence: yup, these pics are taken before the flowers open up for business.
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Post by tarence on Sept 19, 2007 8:46:17 GMT 8
thx hongrui....i`ll look out if any of my matured neps flower in the future.....
would it be wise to make a mental note that male flowers are more spread out while female flowers are in clusters ? or does it vary from variety to variety or how robust the particular nep is ?
i`ve seen nep flowers in the wild quite a few times but never bothered to analyse them. My own have flowered 5 times but since it was single blooms each time, i didn`t bother to check either. i`m clueless ! heheh.
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Post by hongrui on Sept 19, 2007 8:52:28 GMT 8
erm no. all nep flowers will be clustered together when they're just coming out of the growing tip. like this:  more spread out means the flower is almost ready to open. |
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LOL