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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 14:34:11 GMT 8
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Post by bifurcatum on May 2, 2007 15:56:39 GMT 8
Nice  What species is this ping? |
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 16:45:48 GMT 8
Not really sure coz i got it as a gift......my guess is a P.moranensis or perhaps un-identified.
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 17:20:46 GMT 8
Its certainly a Mexican Pinguicuila of some sort. It looks a bit deprived of light at the moment, but even so it would be difficult to identify it at all without a flower. Do you have a picture of a flower to show us?
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 17:38:53 GMT 8
Sorry, in the 2 years I`ve had it, there`s nary a flower. I`ll post if there is...thx for your interest, i`m keen to know what variety it is as well.
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 18:23:57 GMT 8
In my experience they have to experience fairly sudden changes in their conditions-for example when Spring comes round and they get more light and heat, or when it gets colder in Winter. Joseph Clemens has noted that some Pings will flower after suddenly being exposed to temperatures around 5 Celcius.
Try moving it to a completely new location and giving it more water: it may well flower!
Did you give it a dormacy this year by the way?
Dino
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 18:41:31 GMT 8
Nope, I didn`t ( eyes to the ground )  |
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 18:45:23 GMT 8
That is why your mother plant died then: if you dont give them dormacy they wont live very long. They often flower for me whent hey're in dormacy actually, so it may be an idea to give it one this year.
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Post by artificialive on May 2, 2007 20:44:20 GMT 8
But here in malaysia, there are no 4 seasons.. perhaps we can train the plant to go dormant by putting them in shade to lower the temperature..
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Post by zakhren on May 2, 2007 20:59:57 GMT 8
Yes there are no seasons in Malaysia. But if we have seasons or not doesn't matter to the plant. They don't get it they die. Sarracenias and flytraps also need dormancy or they will die.
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 21:24:56 GMT 8
Folks, what he means is the seasons are ingrained into the genetic set up of the plant...be it tissue cultured or otherwise...it might still have to follow the 4 seasons. My VFTs no longer follow the seasons though, some are active all year round. Sarracenias too, don`t ask me how or why though.
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 21:30:20 GMT 8
VFT's and Sarracenia's can live fairly happily for 2 years or more without a dormacy, but eventually they will start to get weaker and die. My advice is to give them a dormacy every year: its not worth losing them.
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 21:44:35 GMT 8
Sound advice.....how do we gauge when it`s winter for them ? do we take any signs of slowdown or leaves getting smaller as a sign ? and if yes, would stuffing them in the fridge to replicate winter be a good idea ? it was suggested to me before.
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 21:51:23 GMT 8
Winter for these plants would be from around December to March. I put mine outside around November and bring them in around mid February, when they start growing very fast. Smaller leaves is a sign of dormacy yes. I dont know much about the fridge method because Ive never used it, sorry.  Its is apparentely the best option that people in the Tropics to use to simulate dormacy but since Ive never used it I dont know. |
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Post by tarence on May 2, 2007 21:58:16 GMT 8
Thank you very much. What you said about the VFTs & sarracenias is true from my experience as some of my plants seem to do well without a problem ( meaning dormancy ) for 1 to 2 years, then they kinda wither off after that & will not recover no matter what....i`ll try it for my more precious CPs....
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Post by cosmoking on May 2, 2007 22:06:45 GMT 8
Try asking at CPUK, as some people seem to do this method regurlarly there.
Mexican Pinguicula dormacy is much more simple. Just keep them very dry in the winter with an occasional watering. Do this for around 3 or 4 months. You will notice that they from a tight, small leaves rosette, or "Winter" rosette. In mid to late Spring, when you start to water them again, they will revert back to their sticky Carnivorous growth.
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Post by artificialive on May 2, 2007 22:10:48 GMT 8
To all members that grow CPs in the tropics.. U can find an article to provide dormancy in Malaysian climate here. Article written by TS. |
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Post by zakhren on May 2, 2007 22:14:14 GMT 8
You could try my idea of lowering light levels, put the plants in an open top polystyrene box and put frozen bottles of water in it. Can close at night to keep it cooler longer. And you can gradually decrease the temps with the number of bottles. Fridge method can be dangerous. Not done properly and it dies. And just taking the plant out and putting it in the fridge right away is NOT dormancy. It like suspended animation. The temps must gradually decrease. You can try the dry dormancy method posted by TS.
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Its is apparentely the best option that people in the Tropics to use to simulate dormacy but since Ive never used it I dont know.