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Post by artificialive on Nov 14, 2007 7:51:11 GMT 8
can anyone help me to identify what type of ampullaria this is?  thanks! |
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Post by lisham on Nov 14, 2007 8:31:03 GMT 8
it's a harlequin... me think...
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Post by isaacgoh on Nov 14, 2007 11:05:55 GMT 8
Looks like red amp to me. ;D
Now Naj you need to tell me where you got this beauty?
Rgds,
Isaac
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Post by artificialive on Nov 15, 2007 11:15:43 GMT 8
Lisham: Erm how do u know its a Harlequin? i mean what are the characteristics are u looking to distinguish it from other red amp varieties? isaac: This is not my amp laa ;D a fren of mine need to id his red amp  |
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Post by lisham on Nov 15, 2007 11:45:47 GMT 8
red ones is red... harlequin got darker spots ...  |
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Post by isaacgoh on Nov 15, 2007 14:11:34 GMT 8
Some reds also got spots. Too many red varieties.
Harlequin i'm not sure that it is.
Maybe Robert can comment if he sees this post.
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Post by Robert on Nov 15, 2007 21:19:31 GMT 8
BE marketed this as harlequin. However if Naj's ones doesn't come from BE he may use "harlequin" as a synonymous, to prevent further confusion,followed by the place where it originated.
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Post by cindy on Nov 17, 2007 14:11:32 GMT 8
If Naj's plant doesn't come from BE, he should not use "harlequin". Should he wants to sell a cutting of it one, labelling it as "harlequin" would give the buyer the wrong idea that it is the "harlequin" clone from BE. The issue with naming Neps is that the name that follows after the species, e.g. N. ampularia 'ABC', is given for particular clones. Even if it looks identical to "harlequin", if it is not the BE clone then one should not name the plant as such. I am not sure if there is any legal implications to copying such names especially if a cutting of the plant could be sold later. The generic names such as 'red', 'green', 'spotted' can be used but for specifics like 'nigropurpurea' and 'Lady Pauline', even the common 'Miranda' should not be used except by the nurseries where they originate from. Just my 2 cents worth.  |
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Post by Robert on Nov 17, 2007 23:50:48 GMT 8
unless the name was registered worldwide only BE will be the sole user.
Meanwhile for hobbyist like us if i gave a friend it would be helpful if i tell him/her that it's a harlequin like the BE form rather than going into length to describe the colours. But it was the sole responsible for me to tell the receiver where it originate, and it's well understood.
Nigropurpurea was commonly used to describe the dark red form-species such as rafflesiana,as in Charles Clark's "Nepenthes of Borneo".
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Post by cindy on Nov 18, 2007 22:19:20 GMT 8
I agree it is the onus of the seller to tell the buyer that it is not harlequin from BE. I would be most annoyed if I bought a plant as 'William's red' and it turned out to be otherwise.  |
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